Wednesday, 24 February 2010

Law

Taken from the blog: Empathetic perspectives .... highly recommended!

The Five Buddhist Precepts

1. I observe the precept of abstaining from the destruction of life.
2. I observe the precept of abstaining from taking that which is not given.
3. I observe the precept of abstaining from sexual misconduct.
4. I observe the precept of abstaining from falsehood.
5. I observe the precept of abstaining from intoxicants that cloud the mind and cause carelessness.

Native American 10 Commandments  

1. Treat the Earth and all that dwell thereon with respect
2. Remain close to the Great Spirit
3. Show great respect for your fellow beings
4. Work together for the benefit of all Mankind
5. Give assistance and kindness wherever needed
6. Do what you know to be right
7. Look after the well-being of mind and body
8. Dedicate a share of your efforts to the greater good
9. Be truthful and honest at all times
10. Take full responsibility for your actions

10 Commandments

1. I am the Lord thy God, ... Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images. 
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. 
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 
5. Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long. 
6. Thou shalt not kill. 
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. 
8. Thou shalt not steal. 
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. 
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house.

Pagan law

1. Do what thou wilt, harm none.

12 comments:

Soul said...

Excuse me for sounding daft about this. Lol - Pagan law seems easiest to remember. Maybe trying to live by it in anyway, is more difficult. There's a lot more to consider there than just "don't hurt others/ harm none".

I love that blog... been following it a while.

L,
M

Anonymous said...

Well yes. But it implies that you have to be aware, not only of what you are doing, but the implications of what you're doing too.

You may not do anything that causes an effect which harms, THAT's difficult in today's society. You can't just BUY something from spar. You have to buy something which didn't hurt anyone to get there ... almost an impossible mission.

All about taking responsibility for who you are, what you are, and what ipples you cause :)

Yes, thanks for the link ;-) you have a groovy day
pace

Anonymous said...

ripples*

Soul said...

lol - exactly what i wanted to say actually. Just... yeah. what i wanted to say.

*nipples sound better :-p

Anonymous said...

Now if i had said that :p

curious though, i'm re-reading these laws. All mostly the same, aimed at leading a harmonious life.

The jewish ones are the worst tho, comparitively, i mean the others are :
"i observe the precepts" and "give" "work" "show" ....
here comes GOD and THOU SHALT.

Basic trust issues, like GOD feels betrayed/hurt/angry about having trusted us before. Doesn't make sense.

Buddhist and native american societies were peaceful communities, the jews are the most warlike bunch of people on earth.

Even the pagan law gives the responsibility to the person to follow what is right, and that following what is right is the natural way, whereas the jewish law assumes you're gonna do the bad thing.

Why is that? And it's been followed through by the western thought, that people are inherently bad, and need saving from their natural wicked inclinations.

IMHO people are stupid, not naturally bad. The apple even, was a stupid act, children, thats all we are.

Getting all aggro is summin you don't do with kids.

peace

Soul said...

Very curious that you would mention that. Lol. I've been thinking and wondering the exact same. Well, I wonder about it when I read it or see it somewhere. it's usually very shortlived though, because theres plenty other things that distract simple minds.

To be honest, being fully Christian, I think the Pagan law is the one I like better than the 10 commandmens anyway. It kinda in a sence covers more ground...

And in fear of sounding like an antisemitis (if thats how you spell it), don't even get me started... lol.

Yewtree said...

See also the Ten Commandments of Solon:

(Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, 1.60), which run as follows:
1. Trust good character more than promises.
2. Do not speak falsely.
3. Do good things.
4. Do not be hasty in making friends, but do not abandon them once made.
5. Learn to obey before you command.
6. When giving advice, do not recommend what is most pleasing, but what is most useful.
7. Make reason your supreme commander.
8. Do not associate with people who do bad things.
9. Honor the gods.
10. Have regard for your parents.

Pstonie said...

"Every living creature in the universe knows right from wrong." -K-PAX

I have a theory that all these laws from "god" may be manipulations. For instance, did anyone ever really feel the need to kill anyone before "god" said "don't"?

Theology and its righteous and pious followers make such a big deal about the proper usage of sex. Sex is way the fuck overrated, especially in this day and age. I don't think I will ever in my travels find anything as disappointing as the male orgasm. And yet it's a multi-billion dollar industry, not to mention founded a belief system that has caused most women to become mindless money-grubbing drones, assured of their continued survival as long as they have nice tits. All because his awesomeness the lord our god said "don't".

Then again, I have a ton of theories, some conflicting, for every occasion. But I think some of us have gotten in the habit of lying to ourselves, even though we know what the right and the wrong thing is by nature.

And anything besides "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is redundant, not that any of us needed to be told even that in the first place.

The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.

Then there's also the belief that we were all created to praise god. Ex-fucking-scuse me? If any of us did that to anything we'd get locked away in a nuttery, and rightly so. Don't even get me started on the apparent paedophile factory called Catholicism.

Anonymous said...

yes, but man is the only who has to make that choice ... animals only ever do what is right, brcause they only have 1 law, survive. And thats's hardwired.

Cain? But again i wonder about the "favouritism" of God towards blood over produce. I mean, both men worked towards the offering, it's even arguable growing vege's is more labour intensive than being a shepherd ... the story doesn't make sense.

Um ... sex ... don't ... wtf?

I watched a movie on marijuana, where an ex-policeman points to the start, Eden. 1 rule, 1 policeman, 2 people. He failed. *shrug* That doesn't make sense either.

"Do unto others" is beautiful, simple and instinctive ...

mmmm yes, corruption, of the worst.

peace, sounds like you need some ;-)

Anonymous said...

Yewtree welcome, and thank you for that read.

I honestly prefer the wording of Solon's version, but of course Moses is in the most widely read book on earth, not Solon. Hence the mantra ... but certainly more refined. Sounds almost oriental in its conceptualisation.

It still strikes me that the 10 commandments were a kneejerk reaction, "bearing false witness" i think is a clue,much more specific than do unto others,

The other oddity is again the sexual rule. Monogamy is not the only variation, and tied to "possesions" like slaves. In some tribes there (was) no sexual fidelity, and socially at least, it worked. In SA the rural blacks stil have multiple wives. STD's notwithstanding.

Thought: many of the laws were hygiene based, with the 40 year trek. Also giving credence to the idea that the laws were specifically worded ...

The greeks of course created theirs from a position of material comfort ... poly vs mono theism also played a huge part.

Ok, i'm rambling now. "do what thou wilt" and "do unto others" are so much neater!!

peace and love

Anonymous said...

The direction given by Christ concerning the confusion over the Law was very useful. " In loving one another you are fulfilling all of the law" is important to keep in mind when interpreting.

david said...

Thanks anonymous, i really do like that, simple and clear.

peace and of course love